Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 22:08:04 PDT From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #798 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Fri, 15 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 798 Today's Topics: 2M opening to Hawaii de CA. >> Simplex repeaters << Guide to the Personal Radio Newsgroups Index to the rec.radio.amateur.* Supplemental Archives orbs$196.2l.amsat Performance of Toshiba TA7758P chip Re: Please read: Ham Radio Bootcamp (Long) Selectone Encrypt Send Replies or notes for publication to: Send subscription requests to: Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Jul 1994 14:07:02 -0700 From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!ncar!noao!asuvax!chnews!ornews.intel.com!ornews.intel.com!not-for-mail@ames.arpa Subject: 2M opening to Hawaii de CA. To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <2vu2ii$if7@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan) writes: >In article <1994Jul11.224615.1@vax.sonoma.edu>, > harrisok@vax.sonoma.edu writes: >> Oh am I jazzed! I just worked Hilo, Hawaii on 2 meters via our club repeater >> here in Sonoma County, CA. The first time I worked Hawaii and it was VHF! >Upgrade to General and you can work people even farther away than that. >MD Why not just call them on the telephone instead? Saves a lot of money on radio gear. Seriously, is an FM 2 meter contact of that distance unusual? I thought SSB was pretty much mandatory. Just had a QSO with a guy on 222Mhz today who claimed to have made the first 2 meter contact from the NorthWest US to Hawaii. How many times has that been done? -- zardoz@ornews.intel.com WA7LDV from Oregon - The BEAVER state I speak only for myself. A Honeymoon salad = lettuce alone ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 1994 08:56:01 -0400 From: newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net Subject: >> Simplex repeaters << To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Does anyone have any experiences good or bad with simplex repeaters? I've got an Alinco SR-4 that I use but would like to find a novel use for it. Any ideas? 73, Rob, N1NTE (email - RobB873302@aol.com) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:01:28 GMT From: news.mtholyoke.edu!news.unomaha.edu!news@uunet.uu.net Subject: Guide to the Personal Radio Newsgroups To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Posted-By: auto-faq 3.2.1.2 Archive-name: radio/personal-intro Revision: 1.5 12/18/93 14:15:53 Changes: new mailing lists, .packet rmgroup, and .policy updates (Note: The following is reprinted with the permission of the author.) This message describes the rec.radio.amateur.*, rec.radio.cb, rec.radio.info, and rec.radio.swap newsgroups. It is intended to serve as a guide for the new reader on what to find where. Questions and comments may be directed to the author, Jay Maynard, K5ZC, by Internet electronic mail at jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu. This message was last changed on 18 September 1993 to add the mailing lists for the new rec.radio.amateur newsgroups, to note the rmgroup of rec.radio.amateur.packet, and to officially retire some (in)famous threads of discussion on rec.radio.amateur.policy. History ======= Way back when, before there was a Usenet, the Internet hosted a mailing list for hams, called (appropriately enough) INFO-HAMS. Ham radio discussions were held on the mailing list, and sent to the mailboxes of those who had signed up for it. When the Usenet software was created, and net news as we now know it was developed, a newsgroup was created for hams: net.ham-radio. The mailing list and the newsgroup were gatewayed together, eventually. As the net grew, and as packet radio came into vogue, packet discussion began to dominate other topics in the group and on the list. This resulted in the logical solution: a group was created to hold the packet discussion, and another corresponding mailing list was created as well: net.ham-radio.packet and PACKET-RADIO, respectively. These two groups served for several years, and went through Usenet's Great Renaming essentially unchanged, moving from net.ham-radio[.packet] to rec.ham-radio[.packet]. Readership and volume grew with the rest of the network. The INFO-HAMS mailing list was originally run from a US Army computer at White Sands Missile Range, SIMTEL20. There were few problems with this arrangement, but one was that the system was not supposed to be used for commercial purposes. Since one of hams' favorite pastimes is swapping gear, it was natural for hams to post messages about equipment for sale to INFO-HAMS/rec.ham-radio. This ran afoul of SIMTEL20's no-commercial-use restriction, and after some argument, a group was created specifically for messages like that: rec.ham-radio.swap. This group wasn't gatewayed to a mailing list, thus avoiding problems. While all this was happening, other folks wanted to discuss other aspects of the world of radio than the personal communications services. Those folks created the rec.radio.shortwave and rec.radio.noncomm newsgroups, and established the precedent of the rec.radio.* hierarchy, which in turn reflected Usenet's overall trend toward a hierarchical name structure. The debate between proponents of a no-code ham radio license and its opponents grew fierce and voluminous in late 1989 and 1990. Eventually, both sides grew weary of the debate, and those who had not been involved even more so. A proposal for a newsgroup dedicated to licensing issues failed. A later proposal was made for a group that would cover the many recurring legal issues discussions. During discussion of the latter proposal, it became clear that it would be desirable to fit the ham radio groups under the rec.radio.* hierarchy. A full-blown reorganization was passed by Usenet voters in January 1991, leading to the overall structure we now use. After the reorganization, more and more regular information postings began to appear, and were spread out across the various groups in rec.radio.*. Taking the successful example of the news.answers group, where informational postings from across the net are sent, the group rec.radio.info was created in December, 1992, with Mark Salyzyn, VE6MGS, initially serving as moderator. In January, 1993, many users started complaining about the volume in rec.radio.amateur.misc. This led to a discussion about a second reorganization, which sparked the creation of a mailing list by Ian Kluft, KD6EUI. This list, which was eventually joined by many of the most prolific posters to the ham radio groups, came up with a proposal to add 11 groups to the rec.radio.amateur hierarchy in April 1993. The subsequent vote, held in May and early June, approved the creation of five groups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc (to replace .packet), .equipment, .homebrew, .antenna, and .space. The Current Groups ================== I can hear you asking, "OK, so this is all neat history, but what does it have to do with me now?" The answer is that the history of each group has a direct bearing on what the group is used for, and what's considered appropriate where. The easy one is rec.radio.amateur.misc. It is what rec.ham-radio was renamed to during the reorganization. Any message that's not more appropriate in one of the other groups belongs here, from contesting to DX to ragchewing on VHF to information on becoming a ham. The group rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc is for discussions related to (surprise!) digital amateur radio. This doesn't have to be the common two-meter AX.25 variety of packet radio, either; some of the most knowledgeable folks in radio digital communications can be found here, and anything in the general area is welcome. The name was changed to emphasize this, and to encourage discussion not only of other text-based digital modes, such as AMTOR, RTTY, and Clover, but things like digital voice and video as well. The former group, rec.radio.amateur.packet, should be removed by September 21st, 1993. It is obsolete, and you should use .digital.misc instead (or the appropriate new mailing list, mentioned below). The group has .misc as part of the name to allow further specialization if the users wish it, such as .digital.tcp-ip. The swap group is now rec.radio.swap. This recognizes a fact that became evident shortly after the original group was formed: Hams don't just swap ham radio gear, and other folks besides hams swap ham equipment. If you have radio equipment, or test gear, or computer stuff that hams would be interested in, here's the place. Equipment wanted postings belong here too. Discussions about the equipment generally don't; if you wish to discuss a particular posting with the buyer, email is a much better way to do it, and the other groups, especially .equipment and .homebrew, are the place for public discussions. There is now a regular posting with information on how to go about buying and selling items in rec.radio.swap; please refer to it before you post there. The first reorganization added two groups to the list, one of which is rec.radio.amateur.policy. This group was created as a place for all the discussions that seem to drag on interminably about the many rules, regulations, legalities, and policies that surround amateur radio, both existing and proposed. Recent changes to the Amateur Radio Rules (FCC Part 97) have finally laid to rest the Great Usenet Pizza Autopatch Debate as well as complaints about now-preempted local scanner laws hostile to amateurs, but plenty of discussion about what a bunch of rotten no-goodniks the local frequency coordinating body is, as well as the neverending no-code debate, may still be found here. The other added group is rec.radio.cb. This is the place for all discussion about the Citizens' Band radio service. Such discussions have been very inflammatory in rec.ham-radio in the past; please do not cross-post to both rec.radio.cb and rec.radio.amateur.* unless the topic is genuinely of interest to both hams and CBers - and very few topics are. The rec.radio.info group is just what its name implies: it's the place where informational messages from across rec.radio.* may be found, regardless of where else they're posted. As of this writing, information posted to the group includes Cary Oler's daily solar progagation bulletins, ARRL bulletins, the Frequently Asked Questions files for the various groups, and radio modification instructions. This group is moderated, so you cannot post to it directly; if you try, even if your message is crossposted to one of the other groups, your message will be mailed to the moderator, who is currently Mark Salyzyn, VE6MGS. The email address for submissions to the group is rec-radio-info@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca. Inquires and other administrivia should be directed to rec-radio-request@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca. For more information about rec.radio.info, consult the introduction and posting guidelines that are regularly posted to that newsgroup. The groups rec.radio.amateur.antenna, .equipment, .homebrew, and .space are for more specialized areas of ham radio: discussions about antennas, commercially-made equipment, homebrewing, and amateur radio space operations. The .equipment group is not the place for buying or selling equipment; that's what rec.radio.swap is for. Similarly, the .space group is specifically about amateur radio in space, such as the OSCAR program and SAREX, the Shuttle Amateur Radio EXperiment; other groups cover other aspects of satellites and space. Homebrewing isn't about making your own alcoholic beverages at home (that's rec.crafts.brewing), but rather construction of radio and electronic equipment by the amateur experimenter. Except for rec.radio.swap and rec.radio.cb, all of these newsgroups are available by Internet electronic mail in digest format; send a mail message containing "help" on a line by itself to listserv@ucsd.edu for instructions on how to use the mail server. All of the groups can be posted to by electronic mail, though, by using a gateway at the University of Texas at Austin. To post a message this way, change the name of the group you wish to post to by replacing all of the '.'s with '-'s - for example, rec.radio.swap becomes rec-radio-swap - and send to that name@cs.utexas.edu (rec-radio-swap@cs.utexas.edu, for example). You may crosspost by including multiple addresses as Cc: entries (but see below). This gateway's continued availability is at the pleasure of the admins at UT-Austin, and is subject to going away at any time - and especially if forgeries and other net.abuses become a problem. You have been warned. A Few Words on Crossposting =========================== Please do not crosspost messages to two or more groups unless there is genuine interest in both groups in the topic being discussed, and when you do, please include a header line of the form "Followup-To: group.name" in your article's headers (before the first blank line). This will cause followups to your article to go to the group listed in the Followup-To: line. If you wish to have replies to go to you by email, rather than be posted, use the word "poster" instead of the name of a group. Such a line appears in the headers of this article. One of the few examples of productive cross-posting is with the rec.radio.info newsgroup. To provide a filtered presentation of information articles, while still maintaining visibility in their home newsgroups, the moderator strongly encourages cross-posting. All information articles should be submitted to the rec.radio.info moderator so that he may simultaneously cross-post your information to the appropriate newsgroups. Most newsreaders will only present the article once, and network bandwidth is conserved since only one article is propagated. If you make regular informational postings, and have made arrangements with the moderator to post directly to the group, please cross-post as appropriate. -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity. "If my car ran OS/2, it'd be there by now" -- bumper sticker GCS d++ p+ c++ l+ m+/- s/++ g++ w++ t+ r -- 73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU pschleck@unomaha.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:01:12 GMT From: news.mtholyoke.edu!news.unomaha.edu!news@uunet.uu.net Subject: Index to the rec.radio.amateur.* Supplemental Archives To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Posted-By: auto-faq 3.2.1.2 Archive-name: radio/ham-radio/archives The following is a list of informational files for this newsgroup available via anonymous FTP from ftp.cs.buffalo.edu or the Australia/ Asian-Pacific mirror at grivel.une.edu.au. Questions to bowen@cs.buffalo.edu 1750m.band - misc info on the 1750m band 222xvtr.zip - PostScript code for KH6CP no-tune 222-MHz transverter 8085sys.zip - 8085 system software, from QEX 11/93 and 12/93 alinco_180t_mod - Alinco 180T modification for a TNC connection ampr_coordinators - coordinators for packet IP addresses antenna_refs - references for articles about antenna designs antique_radio_info - misc info about antique radio collecting arrl-logo.ps - ARRL logo in PostScript format arrl_bib - bibliographies from ARRL literature (ASCII format) arrl_digital_minutes - Minutes of the ARRL committee on digital comm. arrl_fo_jobs - descriptions of some ARRL Field Organization jobs arrl_info_service - announcement of the ARRLs trial information service bbs_interface_specs - specifications for message passing protocol cal_pd_freq - California police frequencies callbook.tar.Z - sources for the Buffalo callsign server v1.3 canadian.Z - Canadian ham database in FCC format carpet.loop.2 - Antenna for apartments and small spaces clubcalls.Z - database of US ham clubs comb6.zip - HF Propagation Predication program docket_91-36 - information regarding the proposed scanner regs dxcc-k2di - ARRL DXCC country list dx_w2iol.dat - data for all country prefix, position, etc dx_w2iol.doc - documentation for the above database element_credit - rules about VE credit for earliers exams elmers_admin - information about the elmers list (see below) elmers_index - quick reference index of elmers elmers_list - list of elmers on the network exam_ops - info on exams and exam opportunities faq_callsign - frequently asked questions about the callsign server faq_ham_1 - frequently asked questions about ham radio (pts 1) faq_ham_2 - frequently asked questions about ham radio (pts 2) faq_ham_3 - frequently asked questions about ham radio (pts 3) faq_packet - frequently asked questions about packet radio faq_satellite - frequently asked questions about satellites faq_shortwave - frequently asked questions about shortwave fcc_part_97_1 - text of the FCC part 97 amateur regulations (part 1) fcc_part_97_2 - text of the FCC part 97 amateur regulations (part 2) fcc_part_97_3 - text of the FCC part 97 amateur regulations (part 3) fft.com - EGA/VGA DOS command for spectral display (QST 1/92) ffth.com - Hercules DOS command for spectral display (QST 1/92) field_day_92 - field day rules for 1992 florida_antenna - Florida State antenna law info guide2newsgroups - description of USENET newsgroups dedicated to radio ham_sat_sum - summary of information needed to get on satellite hams_on_usenet - list of ham operators and e-mail addresses on the net hamstacks - information about the question pool stacks handicap_waiver - info on obtaining a handicapped test waiver hf_rigs - QST reviews of available HF rigs ht_info - general information about commercial hand helds icom_ic_w21at_mods - increases the number of bands on an Icom IC W21AT intro_to_swl - info for aspiring short wave listeners intro_to_scanners - info for aspiring scanner listeners jlem.zip - Program, w/source, for 2kx8 ROM emulator (QEX 1/93) j-poles - description of j-pole antenna made from twin-lead keplerian_format - specification for format of keplerian elements lead_acid_batteries - essay on lead-acid batteries license_plates - guide to ham calls on license plates logos - PostScript logos for various ham organizations mail_order - a database of electronic mail order shops manufacturers - names and addresses of ham gear manufacturers mav11.ps - postscript image of MAV-11 amplifier PCB (QEX 9/93) mlhacker.zip - newsletters about the MiniSport Laptop Hacker mods - directory containing radio modifications motorola_ge_service_man - how to get service manuals for Motorola and GE rigs nasa_select - places where you can hear NASA SELECT broadcasts new_packeteers - helpful essays for new packeteers newcomers - tips and hints for those new to amateur radio nprm_93-85_text - text of docket 93-85 (message forwarding systems) nprm_93-305_text - text of docket 93-305 (vanity call system) oe_m1_review - review of the Optoelectronic M1 Handicounter oe_3000a_review - review of the Optoelectronic 3000A Handicounter packet_clubs - organizations you can get more packet info from packet_gateways - list of gateways from packet to Internet packet_header_standard - description of BBS message header standards packet_misc - miscellaneous packet info packet_software - list of packet software versions phone_bbs_list - phone BBSs for ham related issues/software pio_handbook - ARRL Public Information Officer's Handbook postscript_610 - postscript code to print an FCC form 610 pr_docket_92-136 - text of FCC PR Docket 92-136 pshift.zip - Phase-shift network analysis program, April, 1994 QEX qex1193.ps - Postscript image of 13cm preamp board, 11/93 QEX "RF" qexcvsd.zip - CVSD codec card test programs, April 1994 QEX qexfq194.zip - Pascal program for PC frequency counter, Jan 1994 QEX qexpad.zip - VHF Power Attenuator program, April 1994 QEX qsl_bureau1 - information about the ARRL QSL bureau qsl_bureau2 - "what should I do if" list for the QSL bureau qst_prodrev - index of ARRL product reviews in QST quest_pool_novice - novice question pool - good after 7/1/93 quest_pool_technician - technician question pool - good after 7/1/93 quest_pool_general - general question pool - good before 6/30/94 quest_pool_advanced - advanced question pool - good before 6/30/95 quest_pool_extra - extra question pool - good before 6/30/96 rfi_tips - good posting about RFI sol_geo_data - desciption of daily solar geophysical broadcasts sol_terra_terms - glossary of solar-terrestrial terms sstv_wefax_info - general help for SSTV and WEFAX users tasm.zip - table-driven assembler for weavrdsp.zip file txt2eprm.zip - morse code ID generator programming utility (QEX 2/94) usenet_purchases - tips on buying and selling via USENET vlf_elf_references - references for info on VLF and ELF radio weavrdsp.zip - src to "Weaver Method Modulator Using DSP" (QEX 9/93) For readers of this newsgroup both new and experienced, these files are a de-facto "Required Reading List" to provide definitive answers and pointers to other sources for questions that come up in this forum. This is also your archive, so any additional articles, guides, or small PostScript graphics that you feel would enhance this collection are most welcome. Submit to Devon via his E-mail address above. Thanks go to Devon Bowen, KA2NRC, for providing diskspace and maintaining these valuable archives, as well as all the authors who wrote and submitted the information contained in them. Additional archives out there that have /pub/ham-radio directories are encouraged to "mirror" these files to provide redundant storage for these documents. Some of these sites (which may or may not mirror ftp.cs.buffalo.edu) include: ftp.ucsd.edu /hamradio nic.funet.fi /pub/ham /pub/dx csseq.cs.tamu.edu /ham-radio suntan.tandem.com /hamradio col.hp.com /packet ftp.cs.buffalo.edu /pub/ham-radio bubba.business.uwo.ca /hamster/ham /hamster/tcpip /hamster/mods /hamster/view vax.cs.pitt.edu /pub/arrl8 /pub/ka9q /pub/ncpa /pub/tnc2 brolga.cc.uq.oz.au /pub/ka9q tomcat.gsfc.nasa.gov /public helios.tn.cornell.edu /pub wuarchive.wustl.edu /mirrors/msdos/hamradio /mirrors/msdos/packet /mirrors/msdos/ka9q-tcpip /mirrors/cpm/hamradio /mirrors/cpm/packet /mirrors/misc/hamradio /mirrors/misc/packet /mirrors/misc/ka9q-tcpip gatekeeper.dec.com /pub/net/ka9q sun.soe.clarkson.edu /pub/ka9q sics.se /archive/packet /pub/packet-incoming sabrina.dei.unipd.it /pub/hamradio uhunix2.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu /incoming/ham-radio caticsuf.cati.csufresno.edu /pub/ham-radio ftp.waseda.ac.jp /pub/toumon/ham-radio garfield.catt.ncsu.edu /pub/hamradio plan9.njit.edu /pub/hamradio sunee.uwaterloo.ca /pub/radio grivel.une.edu.au /pub/ham-radio vixen.cso.uiuc.edu /pub/ham-radio iraun1.ira.uka.de /pub/ham-radio nic.switch.ch /software/hamradio /software/mac/ham-radio iesd.auc.dk /ham-radio akutaktak.andrew.cmu.edu /aw0g (softkiss-mac) gandalf.umcs.maine.edu /pub/ham-radio # ls -l NO !) rtfm.mit.edu /pub/usenet/news.answers/radio tamu.edu /pc-sig ftp.geo.brown.edu /pub/hamradio ns.risc.net /ham-radio oak.oakland.edu /pub/hamradio ftp.fidonet.org /pub/fidonet/ham ftp.halcyon.com /pub/fidonet/ham ftp.fcc.gov /pub ftp.demon.co.uk /pub/ham Questions about FTP mirroring and access to appropriate software should be directed to me, or do an Archie search on the keyword "mirror." For those without FTP access (and only those without FTP access, please), there is an FTP mail server at ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com. Send the word "HELP" to this address for more information. Additional documents on Usenet and other newsgroups may be obtained from rtfm.mit.edu via anonymous FTP or via mail server (send the word "HELP" to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu). The American Radio Relay League has recently made available a mail-server to distribute many of their informational documents in electronic form. Send E-mail to info@arrl.org with "HELP" in the message body for more information. These files are also mirrored on oak.oakland.edu. Yet another mail-server has been made available by Steve Harding, KA6ETB. Send E-mail to ham-server@grafex.sbay.org with "HELP" in the message body for more information. -- 73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU pschleck@unomaha.edu ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 94 15:29:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: orbs$196.2l.amsat To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-196.N 2Line Orbital Elements 196.AMSAT HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX July 15, 1994 BID: $ORBS-196.N DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY: 1 AAAAAU 00 0 0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB .CCCCCCCC 00000-0 00000-0 0 DDDZ 2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT AO-10 1 14129U 83058B 94176.41110075 -.00000306 00000-0 10000-3 0 2893 2 14129 27.0856 321.0039 6024383 189.2195 150.8337 2.05882336 82954 UO-11 1 14781U 84021B 94195.06242397 .00000083 00000-0 21899-4 0 7078 2 14781 97.7856 208.5283 0011425 178.8317 181.2912 14.69229240554255 RS-10/11 1 18129U 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125.0543 0013991 153.7603 206.4260 13.84367799270960 MET-3/3 1 20305U 89086A 94194.92403808 .00000044 00000-0 10000-3 0 894 2 20305 82.5560 251.5016 0007665 212.6308 147.4475 13.04409832226381 MET-2/19 1 20670U 90057A 94193.02564718 .00000030 00000-0 13553-4 0 8077 2 20670 82.5382 188.7333 0017853 77.2924 283.0207 13.84189830204051 FY-1/2 1 20788U 90081A 94194.03417053 -.00000082 00000-0 -26181-4 0 134 2 20788 98.8356 213.3492 0015573 302.7604 57.2060 14.01356654197320 MET-2/20 1 20826U 90086A 94192.24637361 .00000056 00000-0 37102-4 0 8153 2 20826 82.5260 126.8437 0013852 348.2605 11.8236 13.83584780191088 MET-3/4 1 21232U 91030A 94192.41447599 .00000051 00000-0 10000-3 0 7146 2 21232 82.5397 152.4638 0013853 120.2656 239.9835 13.16463320154544 NOAA-12 1 21263U 91032A 94194.99451251 .00000161 00000-0 91625-4 0 965 2 21263 98.6161 222.1803 0013093 154.5532 205.6291 14.22428011164311 MET-3/5 1 21655U 91056A 94194.19428742 .00000051 00000-0 10000-3 0 7239 2 21655 82.5532 98.3833 0013766 126.6238 233.6140 13.16831903139884 MET-2/21 1 22782U 93055A 94194.41246650 .00000037 00000-0 19902-4 0 3155 2 22782 82.5469 185.6515 0023001 148.4453 211.8095 13.83010359 43717 POSAT 1 22829U 93061G 94193.24660920 .00000013 00000-0 22747-4 0 2978 2 22829 98.6491 268.8716 0010740 120.3722 239.8519 14.28032813 41272 MIR 1 16609U 86017A 94194.90801470 .00006924 00000-0 10228-3 0 6792 2 16609 51.6459 52.7244 0003477 143.6748 216.4466 15.56583481480188 HUBBLE 1 20580U 90037B 94192.85852801 .00000426 00000-0 27230-4 0 5059 2 20580 28.4692 77.4963 0006071 346.8534 13.1893 14.90638114 33076 GRO 1 21225U 91027B 94190.87753482 .00002166 00000-0 44839-4 0 1144 2 21225 28.4619 74.6101 0003465 117.4235 242.6711 15.41023364 60440 UARS 1 21701U 91063B 94192.89558286 .00003368 00000-0 31530-3 0 5548 2 21701 56.9857 60.0520 0005570 103.1912 256.9743 14.96455115154636 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 1994 10:09:32 -0000 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!library.ucla.edu!psgrain!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!torn!uunet.ca!uunet.ca!ionews.io.org!nobody@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Performance of Toshiba TA7758P chip To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Is anyone familiar with the Toshiba TA7758p chip? It's inside an inexpensive sw radio I have (a Pulser). Is it a 'receiver on a chip'? .. an IF module? Mike -- ======================================================================= Mike Stramba Email: mike@io.org Toronto,Canada Internex Online - Toronto, Canada (416) 363-3783 ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 23:17:38 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!wotan.compaq.com!twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com!news@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: Please read: Ham Radio Bootcamp (Long) To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >In article <300om6$bvi@search01.news.aol.com> robb873302@aol.com (RobB873302) writes: >>HAM RADIO BOOTCAMP >>..... >>and even Morse code practice could be covered in such a net. VE's could > >Interesting idea. I don't have a copy of the CFR regs for 11M - is >A2 emission (modulated CW) allowed on there? I'd be happy to give >code practice sessions on CB if it's legal. But would that be considered >a broadcast (which I know is prohibited on 11M)? > >Jeff NH6IL Probably is. Code practice is spelled out as a specific exception to the broadcast rule in the Amateur regs. I'm sure there is nothing about code practice on the CB band. Otherwise, sounds like a great idea. I'm going to start practicing to be a Ham Radio Boot Camp D.I. "Don't jerk those paddles boy, squeeze them." "Don't call me sir!, I work CW for a living" "You call that a CW fist, maggot? " "All right ladies, drop your c**ks and grab your socks. It's 4AM and 160 meters is grayline to somewhere in the Pacific" Sorry, I couldn't resist. {:-) MSGT Earl Morse 160th Low Bander's Brigade KZ8E kz8e@bangate.compaq.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 05:41:41 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!jevans@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Selectone Encrypt To: info-hams@ucsd.edu -- ======================================================== Jeff Evans jevans@netcom.com Audio Intervisual Design phone 213-845-1155 Los Angeles, CA fax -1170 ======================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jul 1994 10:31:04 GMT From: zib-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!smiller@uunet.uu.net To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References , <2vnt9m$9va@network.ucsd.edu>, <1994Jul13.020744.4852@tower>ns.n Subject : Re: NTS traffic : > The NTS is an obsolete system for transferring small bits of information : > in an inefficient way. It is primarily of interest to old-time hams. ... Let me add a few of thoughts to this thread... 1. NTS has embraced packet radio (though some old-timers were opposed to this idea at first). Why do so many packet users shun NTS? 2. NTS is extremely valuable to amateur radio. I'd recommend that ANYONE handling third-party traffic at least spend some time learning NTS. NTS teaches discipline, accuracy, and speed. Sure, messages get lost sometimes, but that's only because this is a hobby, and some people don't let it take too high of a priority in their personal/family life. Errors in messages, lost messages, etc. cannot be attributed only to NTS. Why can't some of the NTS methods and techniques be additionally adapted for situations when only Packet radio will be relaying the message (i.e., to handle messages > 25 words)? Perhaps a new "HX_" preamble code that means "This message not suitable for being relayed by voice or CW -- keep it in the digital TTY network; cancel and notify originator if not possible." ??? And of course we hams could put our heads together and find a solution to the problem of people forgetting to delete messages they pick up on Packet and deliver. 3. You hams in the U.S. should appreciate what you've got: in Europe and most other parts of the world, third-party traffic is illegal. THERE IS NO NTS HERE! Take it from an American who loved traffic handling in the U.S.: a BIG chunk of the fun is taken out of amateur radio when you can't pass messages for/to others (non-hams). And be aware that the European governments have attempted to persuade the U.S. government to outlaw third-party traffic in the U.S. as well. Check out the ARRL FCC Rulebook for some history on this. 4. I used HF AMTOR/PacTor, and the VHF/UHF Packet network, to communicate with my dad (N7APE) and brother (AJ7X) on a daily basis for nearly 15 years. Though we are still interested in amateur radio, we now use Internet Email to communicate, especially when HF propagation is not so good between Europe and the West Coast, but also due to the third- party traffic restrictions we now have imposed on us as a result of my relocation to Germany. I'd be happy if, at some future date, NTS was replaced by an ITS (*International* Traffic System) that embraced all modes (and users of all modes embraced ITS). I suppose I'm dreaming though... --Shannon, DL6SEU (AKA N7APC) Germany ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #798 ******************************